Apologies on the previous rant on forgiveness .. I have waves of emotion and annoyance at being over influenced within my own head space! How long does it take to calm down after handing in your disassociation letter?
Thirteenth tribe
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A Complete lack of Empathy with a huge side order of Foulness !
by Thirteenth tribe inover the last few years i have experienced in general a lack of sincerity and empathy from jw's .. i won't lie 2 sisters i knew to be different and quite genuine ... all be it still sipping the 'cool aid' though.
but on the whole most brothers/sisters i've met couldn't really care less or just have no idea how to genuinely connect.
one sister asked me a year ago how things were with my husband (an un-believer) i replied " a bit strange right now" (in hindsight it was always made worse because i was in a cult!!
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Food for thought -"How cults rewrite the brain"
by Thirteenth tribe inhttps://www.ted.com/talks/ex_moonie_diane_benscoter_how_cults_think?utm_source=email&source=email&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ios-share.
try this link for more of a psychological angle on the jw s .
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I studied psychology and counselling and now want to go back to study Cognitive behavioural therapy. Great I will check out those articles 🤔 -
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Food for thought -"How cults rewrite the brain"
by Thirteenth tribe inhttps://www.ted.com/talks/ex_moonie_diane_benscoter_how_cults_think?utm_source=email&source=email&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ios-share.
try this link for more of a psychological angle on the jw s .
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Thanks Talesin, really appreciate your input. I'm actually talking to my husband about returning to university, I can't believe I allowed the organisation to discourage me from further study (apart from their shed load of endless propaganda study materials) I thankfully went to uni back in the day before I got back into the whole Borg stage of my life!
if you have the link for that article ? ☺️X
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A Complete lack of Empathy with a huge side order of Foulness !
by Thirteenth tribe inover the last few years i have experienced in general a lack of sincerity and empathy from jw's .. i won't lie 2 sisters i knew to be different and quite genuine ... all be it still sipping the 'cool aid' though.
but on the whole most brothers/sisters i've met couldn't really care less or just have no idea how to genuinely connect.
one sister asked me a year ago how things were with my husband (an un-believer) i replied " a bit strange right now" (in hindsight it was always made worse because i was in a cult!!
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I will never forget a debate I got into with a sister on forgiveness.. She stated how can you expect Jehovah to forgive your sins when you won't move past something that was done to you in your past and forgive that person ? I explained the very obvious difference and premise for my argument - I was sorry and remorseful for all my mistakes and actually seeked forgiveness. The person who wronged me is far from remorseful or sorry and is so arrogant they don't even know how to apologise... How can you be forgiven if you don't actually believe youve even been part of a hurtful action towards another human being? You need a transgressor, an acknowledgment of wrongdoing, a humble heart and then the other party can decide if they can or want to forgive!
The witnesses like to wave this magic generic 'rule of thumb' wand over every problem- when will they realise life is usually the grey area between black and white🤔FYI I was my own worst enemy the only person I hurt was myself ! 😕
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Food for thought -"How cults rewrite the brain"
by Thirteenth tribe inhttps://www.ted.com/talks/ex_moonie_diane_benscoter_how_cults_think?utm_source=email&source=email&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ios-share.
try this link for more of a psychological angle on the jw s .
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Yes good point, literally putting it out for there for debate -I have my reservations on her theories... To me it doesn't work but i find myself looking around for the 1st time in years at different points of view. Not to adopt new teachings just because 'I can ' now! -
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Food for thought -"How cults rewrite the brain"
by Thirteenth tribe inhttps://www.ted.com/talks/ex_moonie_diane_benscoter_how_cults_think?utm_source=email&source=email&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ios-share.
try this link for more of a psychological angle on the jw s .
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Probably the love bombing on us ones who have suffered low self esteem or overwhelming feelings of unworthiness.. They play on Gods love for is like its a dam commodity. -
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A Complete lack of Empathy with a huge side order of Foulness !
by Thirteenth tribe inover the last few years i have experienced in general a lack of sincerity and empathy from jw's .. i won't lie 2 sisters i knew to be different and quite genuine ... all be it still sipping the 'cool aid' though.
but on the whole most brothers/sisters i've met couldn't really care less or just have no idea how to genuinely connect.
one sister asked me a year ago how things were with my husband (an un-believer) i replied " a bit strange right now" (in hindsight it was always made worse because i was in a cult!!
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Thirteenth tribe
Over the last few years I have experienced in general a lack of sincerity and empathy from JW's .. I won't lie 2 sisters I knew to be different and quite genuine ... All be it still sipping the 'cool aid' though. But on the whole most brothers/sisters I've met couldn't really care less or just have no idea how to genuinely connect. One sister asked me a year ago how things were with my husband (an un-believer) I replied " a bit strange right now" (in hindsight it was always made worse because I was in a cult!!), before I could expand on that she cut in with "don't worry it's only temporary at least you will get a new husband in the new system"
I could of punched her smug, arrogant, smiling/sneering face! I didn't reply, I absorbed the crap and tried to forgive as it is hammered into us to gloss over our brothers and sisters transgressions! Man, now they gloss over the "transgressions" of hurting children in the worst way possible... I would like to watch a vigilante mob extract justice on these morons and then we can gloss over it!
Anyway rant over, I actually came on to post this very well defined short vid by Berne brown (sociology /psychology schola)r on sympathy and empathy- how one approach is detrimental and the other genuine. This is because most of the Jws I've seen in action have got it so wrong with their self righteous glazed over nonsense and could learn a thing or two from watching this video.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Evwgu369Jw
Peace out.
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Food for thought -"How cults rewrite the brain"
by Thirteenth tribe inhttps://www.ted.com/talks/ex_moonie_diane_benscoter_how_cults_think?utm_source=email&source=email&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ios-share.
try this link for more of a psychological angle on the jw s .
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Try this link for more of a psychological angle on the JW s
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Looking back,"That was crazy, moment"
by MarkofCane ini got baptized later in life.
i was around 21, i had left and went out into the world should of listen to my gut back then, but instead i disowned myself and came back into the fold.
before i could get baptized, the elder who studied with me said i needed to get rid of everything that was contaminated by this world: music, books & clothing,everything.
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Did anyone ever watch the film "Detroit rock city" with the band kiss ? Remember the scene where the kid hides his kiss records in his mums carpenters record sleeve and she's plays it and hits the roof snapping up the record in anger ! hahaha or when the mums ambush the kiss concert calling them "the Devils music" ! Brilliant , I remember answering the door in a Marilyn Manson t shirt to 2 JW elders from my mums congregation about 16 years ago ... Their faces were hilarious !
I probably won't get back into m.manson just on the grounds that he's a little somber 😉Rock music doesn't have to be depressive or dark man !!
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Looking back,"That was crazy, moment"
by MarkofCane ini got baptized later in life.
i was around 21, i had left and went out into the world should of listen to my gut back then, but instead i disowned myself and came back into the fold.
before i could get baptized, the elder who studied with me said i needed to get rid of everything that was contaminated by this world: music, books & clothing,everything.
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Ha I produced a vast collection of bin liners for the skip containing 100 s of rock/metal CDs , signed collectable albums, t shirts signed at gigs , my scrapbook of gig tickets and signatures from the likes of Alice Cooper to joey Jordanson !
How silly of me, now I have it all on iTunes 😎 And am successfully rebuilding my gig scrapbook ! In the last 2 years I've seen slash, foofighters, pearl jam, bullet for my Valentine , tremonti and awaiting Chris Cornell in April
" Rock on Wayne , party on Garth"
wooooooohhhh yeah ✌🏻